Hereâs a story many in Minnesota have been waiting to hear â especially a bunch of my friends in the local developer and ad
communities who knew something was up. Yes, Minneapolis startup FanChatter
has finally gone public with what theyâve been doing for the past four
months. FanChatter is a site that âhelps sports franchises and other
businesses create a more profitable level of fan involvement through
real-time content sharing.â (More on the companyâs About page.) In April, it was chosen as one of the lucky few to be accepted into the summer program of Y Combinator
(YC). Though the actual numbers arenât announced, Iâve heard only 30
startups were chosen out of almost 1000 that applied. YC is an
organization founded in 2005 that does seed funding for startups.
Hereâs how it explains what that means:
âSeed funding is the earliest stage of venture
funding. It pays your expenses while youâre getting started. Some
companies may need no more than seed funding. Others will go through
several rounds. There is no right answer; how much funding you need
depends on the kind of company you start. At Y Combinator, our goal is
to get you through the first phase. This usually means: get you to the
point where youâve built something impressive enough to raise money on
a larger scale. Then we introduce you to later stage investors, or
occasionally even acquirers.â (More on Y Combinatorâs About page.)
YCâs application process
is well explained on their site, a process FanChatter went through
earlier this year, before their selection in mid-April. After sitting
on this story for some time, waiting for the TechCrunch post to break
first (which is the normal way YC companies get announced), what
follows is the result of a phone and email interview I did over the
past few days with FanChatter founders Marty Wetherall and Luke Francl,
who remain in Silicon Valley through August. (The third founder, Norm
Orstad, was not available.)
Tech-Surf-Blog: Tell us about how you came to apply
for the Y Combinator program. Why did you think a MN startup would
stand a chance, and why did you decide to do it this year?
Luke: It was pretty much my idea, but it was
basically for the hell of it. I figured âwhy not?â We made a pact that
if we got in, we would do YC for sure, no matter what. Being from
Minnesota didnât figure into my decision at all; YC doesnât really
discriminate based on geography. As for the timing, it didnât occur to
me to apply sooner. I think that worked out for us, as YC expanded
somewhat for the Summer 2009 class, due to the $2M investment they had
raised. [That was primarily from Sequoia Capital.]
Marty: Iâd always heard about Y Combinator as this
program where only the best and brightest startups were allowed. It
just sounded cool like that, even though I wasnât very knowledgeable at
the time about Paul Graham or Hacker News. All I knew was that
FanChatter needed something big to happen, so we went for it.
Tech-Surf-Blog: Give us the quick story on the process
â starting from when you applied, to when you were invited to make the
trip to Mountain View to pitch, and then how you were chosen as a
finalist.
Luke: The application is straightforward. The most
challenging part is the video. We spent more than two hours working on
a one-minute video. The first inkling we had that we might get selected
was when Paul emailed me to say our video didnât work. Crap!
But that showed they were interested. April 6th was nerve wracking as
we waited to hear if weâd gotten an interview. Finally, at 7:30 that
night, we got the email that they wanted to meet with us. We picked a
time and flew out the morning of the interview. Afterward, you have to
wait around until YC calls you that evening. We got called about four
hours after our interview. YC has standard terms which everyone knows
in advance, so you pretty much just have to say âyesâ or âno.â
Marty: Couple things. First, Iâm a film and TV guy
with well-known Super Bowl spots on my list of credits, and this video
was the simplest thing Iâve ever done. Thatâs because I didnât have
the brain space to make it into anything more than dudes talking into a
web cam â but we must have said something right because they told us it
was good! Second, thereâs a photo on our blog of Luke getting the call
that we were in. It was a great moment. It felt like FanChatter had
arrived. [Here's that photo of Luke taking the call from YC's Paul Graham, shot by Marty.]
Tech-Surf-Blog: The amount of seed capital each Y
Combinator startup gets is not huge, but give us your take on the other
benefits of being selected.
Luke: Yeah, the money is not really the main
benefit of Y Combinator for a company like ours. I think if you were
fresh out of college and used to living on ramen, $15,000 or $20,000
would go a long way, but we all have mortgages. On the flip side, we
already have customers and so we can afford to take a little time and
try to make this work. For the company, we get an incredible inside
view of how Silicon Valley works, and a chance to pitch to the best
angels in the Valley on Demo Day. For me personally, I knew I couldnât
turn down this adventure, even though Iâm giving up income and living
apart from my wife for the summer.
Marty: Definitely a once in a lifetime
opportunity. Iâve lived and worked in LA and felt how the film
industry runs that town. Colors everything about it. It feels like
that in Silicon Valley, but itâs tech. In coffee shops, what you
overhear is tech talk. Startups, angels, and VC. Itâs been fun to
experience this.
Tech-Surf-Blog: Once you were accepted into the program around mid-April, how were you able to keep it such a secret â and why did you have to?
Luke: Keeping this under wraps has been incredibly
difficult, because we wanted to shout it from the rooftops. But we were
advised not to blog about being accepted to Y Combinator, because then
it wouldnât be news when we launched, meaning weâd have a difficult
time getting covered by tech blogs. This was a tough row to hoe for us
because weâve been around for a while. I kind of wish weâd announced it
sooner â we could have easily been the first YC launch of the summer,
but that honor went to our friends at Bump.
Marty: Once we knew we couldnât talk about it until
we launched, we decided weâd use a new piece of business for our
coming- out party. We got that with the debut of our new ChatterBox
feature on the homepage of the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Tech-Surf-Blog: Tell us what the process was like to
apply and, then, once selected as a semi-finalist, get up in front of
the four judges to pitch FanChatter.
Luke: We spent a lot of time crafting the
application. Every time I looked at the instructions, it seemed like
there was some facet Iâd missed, and I tried to hew very closely to the
instructions, especially around answer length. I also paid close
attention to the basics, like spelling and grammar, so there wouldnât
be any excuses to put our application aside. Paul and his partners look
at hundreds of applications, so I didnât want to give them a reason to
pass ours by.
Waiting around at the YC office for the interview was the hardest
part. Iâd read horror stories about how youâd be able to get out two
sentences and then Paul was just going to savage your idea. So, I
practiced our demo, and Marty practiced our two sentences. There were a
few other people waiting around so I showed them the demo, and I got to
see theirs.
Once we got into the interview my nervousness was lifted right away.
Paul was excited to see our demo. Paul, Jessica, Trevor, and Robert
came around to the other side of the table and crowded around my
laptop. [There's more about the four YC partners on YC's People page.]
Then Paul sort of riffed on things we could do â I think he came up
with about two yearsâ worth of work in about 10 minutes â while Jessica
tried to bring things to a close so they could stay on time.
Marty: Itâs true. Luke kept grilling me the whole
trip out here. âWhat are you going to do?â over and over. Not in terms
of the interview, but in terms of the company. So, we were ready. The
interview was easy once we got in there. Itâs definitely the closest
Iâll ever get to feeling like a contestant on American Idol.
Tech-Surf-Blog: Being chosen as a winner required you
to move to the Valley for the summer. Marty, how did you, Luke, and Norm
handle that, with respect to your âotherâ lives, and how long are you
out there?
Marty: My wife and two-year-old daughter came out
here with me, which has been both good and challenging. Startup life is
round the clock, but weâve made it work. In many ways, it would have
been easier as a young guy just out of college, as many of our YC
classmates are.
Luke: I was already doing independent contract
development work (hey, if this startup thing doesnât work out, let me
know if you need a good Rails developer!), so I finished up the
contracts I was working on and that was about it. My wife and I had
planned to take a trip to Italy this summer (that was âPlan Aâ), so I
had to pass that up. Weâre out here until sometime in September, and
then weâll see after that.
Tech-Surf-Blog: Describe a typical day for you this
summer in the Y Combinator program in Mountain View. Where do all these
company founders work? Are there events where you all get together?
Luke: For me, a typical day is programming,
programming, programming. We have a quick stand-up meeting in the
morning, and then I try to hack away at our products. I donât see the
other startup founders much, except on Tuesdays when we all get
together for the YC dinner. Thatâs the social highlight of the week.
Almost everyone works out of their apartments, though I know of one
group thatâs living out of their office!
Marty: Our apartment is in Mountain View, just a
few blocks from YCâs offices. Those Tuesday dinners at Y Combinator
really define the program. Thatâs where we meet and listen to amazing
speakers from the startup world, including successful YC alums. Itâs
interesting to check in with the other founders in our class to see
what theyâve accomplished since the previous week. I think it pushes
all of us to keep up the momentum. [Here's
a photo of Luke and Marty, center, at one of the Tuesday night
meetings, from a Flickr set by "socialmoth" – a YC alum named Paul
McKellar.]
Tech-Surf-Blog: Weâve heard the mantra Y Combinator
puts forth for its companies is to âMake something people want.â What
did FanChatter, which is not a brand-new startup, propose to âmakeâ?
Did you essentially propose to improve your offering for consumers in
order to be selected? If so, how are you coming with that new work?
And when will new features be available to your existing users?
Luke: I think an increasing number of companies
coming into YC already have products or working demos. They liked that
we had customers â that was very attractive. We sort of pitched it as,
âLook how far weâve come working on this in our spare time. Imagine
what we could do if we did this full time.â Weâve been rolling out new
features to our existing customers all summer, as well as creating the
new ChatterBox product. Paulâs been very helpful in helping us figure
out the âbig pictureâ of where we should be going: making more revenue
for our clients (and getting a piece of that).
Marty: In our case, weâre making something that
sports teams and other businesses who have fans want. More engagement
so they can make more money. Iâve always believed that content sharing
is the path to engagement, so thatâs what weâre doing with Scoreboard
Photo Sharing and the ChatterBox â and thatâs just the beginning.
Tech-Surf-Blog: So, what is yet to happen in the Y
Combinator summer program, as youâre now about two months into it â and
what does the future hold for FanChatter?
Luke: âDemo Dayâ is what it all leads up to. [That's in late August at YC's offices, attended by many VCs and angels.] After that, weâll see. Weâre working on becoming ramen profitable, but also looking to raise some angel money.
Marty: Who knows? Hopefully weâre on to something
and fan engagement can carry us beyond sports and into music and TV and
anywhere fans come together around a common interest. Thereâs so much
potential for interesting things to happen, and thatâs where we want to
be.
I certainly wish my friends at FanChatter all the best
as they go forward. And I love the fact that they just happen to be
doing great things for our sports teams here in the Twin Cities! [The scoreboard at the new Gophers stadium should be awesome, and I'm sure hoping FanChatter shows up there.] For
more on the company, see its news release dated August 4. And the TechCrunch story that broke August 1 is here: YC-Funded FanChatter Takes Social Media To The Ball Game. Another good story followed that on MediaPostâs Online Media Daily.
If youâre a startup thinking of taking a run at applying for the Winter 2010 Y Combinator program, there are some great tips on YCâs site, and a FAQ page provides even more insight into how you might be able to take advantage of this excellent program.
Whatâs your take? Will you apply? If not, why not? What are your
picks for other promising startups here in Minnesota who should apply? Or is this a complete fluke? Speak out in the comments.
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